tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post114096854269744826..comments2024-03-08T08:54:08.632-05:00Comments on Bonfire of the Vanities: 'Moving Past' as an Archdiocese (Sunday homily)Fr Martin Foxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-1141172760439346262006-02-28T19:26:00.000-05:002006-02-28T19:26:00.000-05:00Father-I have to commend you on spelling out what ...Father-<BR/><BR/>I have to commend you on spelling out what the appeal is doing. Too often really dumb ideas and projects appear under innocuous names. As a result people, myself included, hesitate to give to vague, but worthy sounding causes, By spelling out what there is you made it clear what this money is going to support. <BR/><BR/>Also, the optional yellow paper if you want to designate where your money goes is terrific. It does tend to take some of the flexibility out of the budget, but it's great for people who want to make sure that their favorite cause isn't going to be "cheated" out of the money they gave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-1141162884261505022006-02-28T16:41:00.000-05:002006-02-28T16:41:00.000-05:00Mark:I think crapum -- a neuter ending seems suita...Mark:<BR/><BR/>I think <I>crapum</I> -- a neuter ending seems suitable.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-1141156584610085642006-02-28T14:56:00.000-05:002006-02-28T14:56:00.000-05:00I'm reading this on Tuesday. I read the homily jus...I'm reading this on Tuesday. I read the homily just now.It was a good homily Fr. You clearly explained what the collection was for and told how it could be directed.<BR/> Here in Southern New Jersey, (St Bernadette's) our Diocese of Camden suggests that we give much more to the Diocesan Fund. A lot of us cough up 7 or 8 hundred dollars. Thankfully it is collected over a period of months. <BR/> You woumd up your homily very nicely and I wish I could have really heard it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-1141096041612607982006-02-27T22:07:00.000-05:002006-02-27T22:07:00.000-05:00I do the same as Jackie. I send an accounting of a...I do the same as Jackie. I send an accounting of all that I give making sure that those that receive are clealy orthodox in the way they operate and in full support of the Pope. I constantly monitor everything about those organizations while also watching the performance of those under the control of our bishop. I have done this for over 5 years and you might think that my report and letter would gain a response, but none come even though my address, phone, and email are included. Two years I even included a stamped self addressed envelope and paper for them to use. That alone tells me a lot about this leadership. The other thing that confirmed this was when the Catholic Telegraph interviewed our bishop about the survey and he said he was surprised people's faith was important to them. How could he be bishop for all these years and not understand that. Maybe if he started hanging around some of the orthodox parishoners, he would find out that their faith is important to them. If he continues to hang around his liberal friends, he will indeed be around many people whose faith is found clearly in cafeteria format.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-1141003569386852172006-02-26T20:26:00.000-05:002006-02-26T20:26:00.000-05:00anonymous:I really don't know if your priest's inf...anonymous:<BR/><BR/>I really don't know if your priest's information about the reading is correct or not; however, the text itself doesn't say that, and I would tend to gravitate to what the text actually says, although what might be "behind" the text -- such as something like what your pastor says -- is not invalid, of course.<BR/><BR/>Here's what Hosea <I>says</I> (chapter 1, verses 2-3):<BR/><BR/>"In the beginning of the LORD'S speaking to Hosea, the LORD said to Hosea: Go, take a harlot wife and harlot's children, for the land gives itself to harlotry, turning away from the LORD. <BR/><BR/>So he went and took Gomer, the daughter of Diblaim; and she conceived and bore him a son."<BR/><BR/>So, the text says she was already a "harlot." <BR/><BR/>In my reading of Hosea, I see no reason to conclude as your pastor does. That doesn't mean he's wrong; it means I can't say, "it's correct."<BR/><BR/>jackie:<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry for all that crap you have to deal with.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for communicating your feelings; at least that gives the Archbishop awareness of what you think and believe, and what's going on among his flock. <BR/><BR/>I am not against talking about money in a homily; money isn't dirty, its a useful thing that can be used to do good things, and how we use it is an index of our values -- so talking about it and asking for it is valid in a homily.<BR/><BR/>But I do prefer to talk about other things. Not that my preferences are what matter.<BR/><BR/>For me to do a whole homily on an appeal such as this is . . . well, it's the first time, to tell the truth. But the Archbishop asked me to do it, and I have no reason not to.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-1140999464368385452006-02-26T19:17:00.000-05:002006-02-26T19:17:00.000-05:00Fr Fox - it's a lovely homily. I'm have given to ...Fr Fox - it's a lovely homily. I'm have given to the Appeal ONLY one time at the behest of my new pastor who had been at my parish less than a year - but was OK - better than before and he was asking for people to participate so I gave. Not a lot - but I give seperately to many very orthodox Catholic Organizations - and within 4 months my pastor had his mug shot on TV and the newspaper for grabbing an undercover cop at a park. And 7 months later he's at the Cathedral and saying Masses elsewhere. The ONLY way I have to provide feedback that the archbishop MIGHT hear - is with my money. SO - I send money directly and then send a letter to the archdiocese with an accounting of what I am giving EVERY MONTH - and tell them again why THEY aren't getting any of it. I HATE that I have to do that but I don't have anything left to provide correction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-1140995635811261372006-02-26T18:13:00.000-05:002006-02-26T18:13:00.000-05:00$25 per family!! Good grief - our average contrib...$25 per family!! Good grief - our average contribution is $10 per family, for the usual contribution, and this from a middle class parish in Australia. Special collections such as you mention here would be lucky to garner $5 per per family.<BR/><BR/>Our priest said that because Hosea was away from home alot his wife, in order to put food on the table for the children, was forced to become a prostitute. Is this correct?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com