tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post6660382568221142498..comments2024-03-25T06:39:42.081-04:00Comments on Bonfire of the Vanities: Bible Study on MatthewFr Martin Foxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-28356972629951272222007-07-30T22:15:00.000-04:002007-07-30T22:15:00.000-04:00A lot of what the popular "Bible Scholars" put out...A lot of what the popular "Bible Scholars" put out is a lot of non-sense. They seem to forget that some of the meanings of what's in the Bible stories aren't necessarily in the literalistic sense. One has to dig a bit deeper.<BR/><BR/>The story of Noah and the flood come to mind. Gabe may be able to explain some of this better, but it seems that one correspondence to the flood is the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory" REL="nofollow">deluge of the Black Sea</A>, about 7-8K years ago. Fundamentalists, as Wikipedia points out, read Noah literalisticly and so reject this as the source event. <BR/><BR/>But if you see the Earth as the place where the ancestors of Israel were located (Judah is identified prophetically with the Earth, while the seas are identified with the nations), you find that a regional deluge can fit the event quite well. Something this big you have to imagine is going to be remembered.<BR/><BR/>Does that sound reasonable or am I out on a limb here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-35205879871770058432007-07-30T21:05:00.000-04:002007-07-30T21:05:00.000-04:00I think that there's a lot to be said for your poi...I think that there's a lot to be said for your point of view, Father. <BR/><BR/>One of the great ideas of Catholicity is that God cares as much about the details when it comes to us, as about the cosmic details of universe. There is a reason the gospels are as they are. Are we to parse them and try to understand them, yes. But we should never lose sight of the fact that they are as they are. There is merit in just reading them, of course. <BR/><BR/>We shouldn't try to say they aren't true on all the levels they are. Sometimes close reading, like the scholars do, misses the forest for the trees in a big way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-66336717454802347502007-07-27T11:59:00.000-04:002007-07-27T11:59:00.000-04:00Hi, Fr. Martin.Given that most graduate courses in...Hi, Fr. Martin.<BR/><BR/>Given that most graduate courses in scripture take, at times, weeks to cover a single book, it's presumptuous to think one could gain all knowledge of a Gospel in a single weekend seminar.<BR/><BR/>I would encourage you to look at the four senses of scripture as a means for explaining how we should read the Bible. While it begins with the "literal" meaning of the text(a phrase that, in itself, must be properly understood), it moves onto the the three spiritual senses that enrich our understanding and make the immediate text more than just a single historical incident.Deacon Bill Burnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11484509700642430451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-76392769832981711572007-07-26T09:59:00.000-04:002007-07-26T09:59:00.000-04:00Anonymous:Sorry, I really have no notes to post, o...Anonymous:<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I really have no notes to post, other than what's in my Bible. <BR/><BR/>MJ:<BR/><BR/>One of these days, I will update my links, and I will be happy to add you. Basically, my only condition is you link me in return.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-55016408995436589412007-07-26T07:15:00.000-04:002007-07-26T07:15:00.000-04:00Do you mind adding my blog Fr?Do you mind adding my blog Fr?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-86505340623945393972007-07-26T07:14:00.000-04:002007-07-26T07:14:00.000-04:00Sounds like a great talk!Sounds like a great talk!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-58918993722400680282007-07-26T05:56:00.000-04:002007-07-26T05:56:00.000-04:00Father, are you intending to put your notes online...Father, are you intending to put your notes online?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-27203465729753110492007-07-25T22:35:00.000-04:002007-07-25T22:35:00.000-04:00I'm taking an excellent Old Testament class right ...I'm taking an excellent Old Testament class right now at Notre Dame Graduate School of Christendom College. The class is great; I was surprised to learn that the Bible is completely irerrant not only in faith and morals but also in history and science. This is dogmatic teaching and the Pontifical Biblical Commission has constantly repeated it. Yet I did not know that before taking the class. However, it makes perfect sense.<BR/><BR/>The required texts for the class are Scott Hahn's A Father Who Keeps His Promises, A Guide to the Bible by Antonio Fuentes, and The Old Testament Documents by Walter Kaiser.Gabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10429965049921573531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-91814975221062531772007-07-25T21:01:00.000-04:002007-07-25T21:01:00.000-04:00Hope the study went well, and everyone learned as ...Hope the study went well, and everyone learned as the Holy Spirit taught through you. Just happened across your post, and wondered if you have ever read "The Art of Biblical Narrative" by Robert Alter. He is Jewish, I think, and the book deals only with the OT/Hebrew Scriptures, but he set me free from worries about all those theories. He so clearly sees the unity and integrity of Scripture from a deeply learned literary point of view. I found it in the public library.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com