tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post7498708173305313760..comments2024-03-25T06:39:42.081-04:00Comments on Bonfire of the Vanities: 'Great Mass, Father!'Fr Martin Foxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-55096280934035021522007-11-10T14:54:00.000-05:002007-11-10T14:54:00.000-05:00Joe:I have no idea. First, I need to become famili...Joe:<BR/><BR/>I have no idea. First, I need to become familiar and at home with the celebration of the Mass in the older form, and that will take time. At some point, I will take part in a training session, but I don't know when. And I will need to practice privately to be fully ready. <BR/><BR/>In the meantime, I await requests from folks here for such a Mass. Shortly after the pope's decision, I told both parishes, at Mass, that I would willingly accede to their requests for the extraordinary form of Mass when received. The only request I've received was from a parishioner that I celebrate his funeral Mass according to the former usage. I said I would do so.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-62494459021679884382007-11-09T23:20:00.000-05:002007-11-09T23:20:00.000-05:00Thanks for the correction Father. Are you thinkin...Thanks for the correction Father. Are you thinking of trying to offer the Tridentine form in the future?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-57152966633684400402007-11-08T23:42:00.000-05:002007-11-08T23:42:00.000-05:00Joe:We are in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati.You ar...Joe:<BR/><BR/>We are in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati.<BR/><BR/>You are confusing the two forms of the Mass in the Roman Rite, the older form, aka "Tridentine" form, and the current, post-Vatican II form of the Mass.<BR/><BR/>We are having the current, newer form of the Mass in Latin, and there is no permission needed for that.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-16220645167720761942007-11-08T22:45:00.000-05:002007-11-08T22:45:00.000-05:00Father, this is so great to hear. I plan on tryin...Father, this is so great to hear. I plan on trying to get up from Cincinnati to one of your masses in the near future. Keep it up. Just curious if your parish is under the archdiocese of Cincinnati and if so, how did you get past the approval process our Bishop has imposed on Latin Mass without passing their test.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-59597683677891973862007-11-08T17:39:00.000-05:002007-11-08T17:39:00.000-05:00Anonymous:I linked Father Ed Burns' site because h...Anonymous:<BR/><BR/>I linked <B>Father</B> Ed Burns' site because he's a brother priest, a friend, and he linked mine.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-77760748782454588792007-11-08T13:20:00.000-05:002007-11-08T13:20:00.000-05:00And the reason you're linking to Ed Burns' blog is...And the reason you're linking to Ed Burns' blog is..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-12746040340978596222007-11-08T11:35:00.000-05:002007-11-08T11:35:00.000-05:00This post has brightened my day. Thank you, Father...This post has brightened my day. Thank you, Father.DGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993123207698690899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-71860190387420327712007-11-08T01:19:00.000-05:002007-11-08T01:19:00.000-05:00Please keep up the Latin Mass! I could not make i...Please keep up the Latin Mass! I could not make it in Oct due to being out of town. Then this morning a furniture delivery we were anticipating around noon arrived at 7:40 a.m. I know! Have 20 Latin Masses ea month and everyone is sure to be able to attend at least some of them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-84265071485926123762007-11-07T23:45:00.000-05:002007-11-07T23:45:00.000-05:00"What language was the Mass in at the very start o...<I><B>"What language was the Mass in at the very start of the Church? "</I></B> <BR/><BR/>Any good Greek Catholic could answer that - Church Slavonic, of course! It just took another 11 centuries for the miedieval Bulgarians to speak it!<BR/><BR/>But this is happy news Father. Spend five minutes every morning teaching the kids a little latin, by the time they "graduate" 8th grade they will have a good idea what is going on. Might even have a leg up on learning a foreign language!<BR/><BR/>The thing that gets me is that anyone who thinks they "know what is going on" fully in the Mass is (if they are not an angel) KIDDING themselves. Understanding every single word and reading along in the missallette still leaves a great deal that we just can't understand. It is the MASS!<BR/><BR/>The thing of it is for years going to Mass in grade school I thought when Father sang "Let us proclaim the mystery of Faith" he wasn't referring to what just happened, but rather it was like his que to us ("hit it!") to sing "Christ has died..."<BR/><BR/>100% vernacular without explination can be more confusing and misunderstood than most people will admit.A Simple Sinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710927638399318664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-76847371316228170002007-11-07T20:38:00.000-05:002007-11-07T20:38:00.000-05:00Speaking of Kyrie ...I wonder what percentage of A...Speaking of Kyrie ...<BR/><BR/>I wonder what percentage of Americans or US Christians or US Catholics actually know that the New Testament was written in Greek. I don't think I knew that until I was in college (admittedly I was lapsed from 12 to about 24/25).<BR/><BR/>Actually, something similar came up at a recent group meeting. What language was the Mass in at the very start of the Church? The very, very start. Under Pope Peter I. My guess was that it would have been in Greek. But someone else said Aramaic, based on the Last Supper as being the first Mass. Which may be true, except that the only accounts we have of that first Mass are themselves in Greek.CourageManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13446189695845365897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-53887420881430017632007-11-07T15:56:00.000-05:002007-11-07T15:56:00.000-05:00Eric:I prepared a handout, and photocopied it.If y...Eric:<BR/><BR/>I prepared a handout, and photocopied it.<BR/><BR/>If you send me an email at FrMartinFox@yahoo.com, I will send a copy. That is not my regular account, so I don't check it often; so I'll keep an eye out.<BR/><BR/>(If I get a lot of requests, I may just post the text online if that would help; trouble is, the formatting all goes haywire.)<BR/><BR/>FYI, no warranties, I can't promise I didn't make a typo, it was just something "quick and dirty" as I used to say in my career.<BR/><BR/>Mephiboseth:<BR/><BR/>I know; my point was that Kyrie is still Kyrie in Mass in Latin. As it was, the kids didn't stand and sit as they usually do, because things were different enough. I wanted to put them at ease.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-30641340973365265792007-11-07T15:40:00.000-05:002007-11-07T15:40:00.000-05:00Wow..i'm impressed!Wow..i'm impressed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-92081354833466366242007-11-07T14:21:00.000-05:002007-11-07T14:21:00.000-05:00Far out Father! I'm glad you posted this. I would ...Far out Father! I'm glad you posted this. I would love for our school to at least try one Latin Mass.<BR/>Question please, Who printed the hand outs you used and where might someone get a copy?<BR/>Did you face the congregation or have you back to them?<BR/>Thanks, and I think it's wonderful<BR/>Eric SeamanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-91699739276793718972007-11-07T13:50:00.000-05:002007-11-07T13:50:00.000-05:00I need to get the bi-location thing down.I need to get the bi-location thing down.Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675918069376931859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-75769570643684384612007-11-07T11:31:00.000-05:002007-11-07T11:31:00.000-05:00Ha, it's a trick..."Kyrie" is Greek! Technically,...Ha, it's a trick..."Kyrie" is Greek! Technically, "Kyrie" in Latin is "Domine"...p8https://www.blogger.com/profile/00553184194930512732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-11716264662958227542007-11-07T10:48:00.000-05:002007-11-07T10:48:00.000-05:00Father,I am in my late 20's and have never actuall...Father,<BR/>I am in my late 20's and have never actually seen a Latin mass, but I yearn to. Unfortunately, with 2 children under the age of 2 it's hard enough to make the normal mass. Anyways, I heard a nice quote from an elderly lady concerning Latin in the Mass when someone complained to her that the Church was going backwards and no one would know what was being said and going on. She said that the Latin Mass was to her like Mozart, she doesn't know what all the notes are, but she can still enjoy the beauty of the music. I think younger Catholics (I still consider myself younger but maybe I shouldn't) really yearn for an authentic Catholic faith, and the Latin Mass helps draw us closer to that experience. Of course, I'm only speaking as someone who has never actually attended a Latin Mass, but it sounds beautiful and all the complaints against it seem to me to be from liberal Catholics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com