tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post6965348990958928044..comments2024-03-25T06:39:42.081-04:00Comments on Bonfire of the Vanities: What's wrong with two men having sex together, if they love each other?Fr Martin Foxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-8640745602884099762013-10-21T09:14:24.559-04:002013-10-21T09:14:24.559-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395546579597858011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-32708077000278966932013-10-21T09:05:12.946-04:002013-10-21T09:05:12.946-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395546579597858011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-29616459127939416072013-10-20T23:31:05.925-04:002013-10-20T23:31:05.925-04:00Pat:
I didn't tell you to shut up. I asked yo...Pat:<br /><br />I didn't tell you to shut up. I asked you to leave. You refuse.<br /><br />You've posted your last comment.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-3490021831406167662013-10-20T22:39:30.668-04:002013-10-20T22:39:30.668-04:00Humana Vitae by Pope JP2 makes the point that the ...Humana Vitae by Pope JP2 makes the point that the human body does not make sense in isolation. Woman's body only makes sense in relation to mans body. What would a woman use womb for if not for the egg fertilized by man?<br /><br />God gave us directives to protect us because He made us and he knows how we will distort His holy things and use them for selfish reasons. Eating is not evil. People distort the gift of the sense of taste and become obese. It is not evil but hazardous to our best self and well being.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-81569686946007511222013-10-20T18:59:21.307-04:002013-10-20T18:59:21.307-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395546579597858011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-4005418809523440602013-10-20T10:16:57.768-04:002013-10-20T10:16:57.768-04:00To everyone else:
I don't object to questions...To everyone else:<br /><br />I don't object to questions or disagreements. But there's a difference between people who act in good faith, and those who don't. The latter aren't welcome to hijack my blog to flog their points. That's why you create your own blog--which is free.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-84602897017487860842013-10-20T10:15:02.071-04:002013-10-20T10:15:02.071-04:00Pat:
It's false to say what you say about Nat...Pat:<br /><br />It's false to say what you say about Natural Law; and if you are the Pat who's been here before, you know that--because you made a great point, then, of how well educated you were in Natural Law theory. It's simply a lie to say that people swimming offends against Natural Law. A Lie.<br /><br />Pat, most decent people, when asked to leave someone's home, leave.<br /><br />You've come here basically to be what is termed a "troll." And you've been asked to leave.<br /><br />No parting words. Thanks for coming. Goodbye.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-5775968928405260342013-10-19T19:04:14.395-04:002013-10-19T19:04:14.395-04:00AZNativeGrandma: Nope. I'm not talking about...AZNativeGrandma: Nope. I'm not talking about accidentally falling into the ocean. I'm talking about swimming. Natural Law theory would hold that purposefully using my arms and legs and lungs for a recreational reason that Natural Law absolutely did not intend is as wrong as using my genitals for something other than urinating or procreative sex. Or do we apply NLT only when it suits us?<br /><br />Fr. Fox, sorry, but you invite comments on this blog and mine are polite and thoughtful. Tendentious just means I disagree with you. Natural Law theory fails miserably at explaining certain human behavior - especially sexual behavior. And using it to deny civil marriage to gay people is disingenuous. <br /><br />Saying that gay people shouldn't marry because "God told me so," would be stronger, although still not strong enough to influence our civil laws.<br />Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395546579597858011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-36222094699888527472013-10-19T14:40:43.332-04:002013-10-19T14:40:43.332-04:00Pat, if you accidentally fall in a pool of water y...Pat, if you accidentally fall in a pool of water you can either sink or swim....if you fall off a cliff gravity will kick in, you don't get a choice, you will not fly, you will hit bottom and most likely die. It's called using your reason and sense regarding natural consequence.<br />Father Fox, thank you for writing a very well thought out explanation which any thinking person can understand. <br />I'll be sharing this with all of my Catholic contacts.AZNativeGrandmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01869673704357000360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-67477547018920518292013-10-19T11:19:23.355-04:002013-10-19T11:19:23.355-04:00I think the ick factor is also related to natural ...I think the ick factor is also related to natural law. Let's not be too delicate when talking about these realities. Certain organs are naturally designed for certain uses. I like the story of the Native American man who took his son to the hardware store. He showed his son a nut and a bolt and how the bolt was inserted into a the nut. This, he said to his son, is how God made a man and a woman to join together. By implication, a nut cannot achieve any kind of real union with a nut, and a bolt cannot achieve any kind of real union with a bolt, so if they choose to "mate," their interactions necessarily require some unnatural act or other to be performed. Gays have told me what they do with their partners. The ick factor is always present to one degree or another. Roseanne T. Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00459964210191527635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-64430194627238902412013-10-18T22:04:47.908-04:002013-10-18T22:04:47.908-04:00Pat:
If you're the same Pat that has shown up...Pat:<br /><br />If you're the same Pat that has shown up, like clockwork, to complain about Natural Law, then I must thank you for fulfilling my prediction.<br /><br />Constructive and engaging comments are always welcome. Tendentious comments, such as this, not so much.<br /><br />How about you plan on coming back in about six months?Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-91883607943706222422013-10-18T17:58:17.145-04:002013-10-18T17:58:17.145-04:00Pat, what are you thinking? Lots of mammals swim f...Pat, what are you thinking? Lots of mammals swim for recreation, etc.<br /><br />If you are not Catholic, that is your business. But Father has stated the position of the church. You are free to decide for yourself.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11200221356189037181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-40054224224910163282013-10-18T16:45:04.523-04:002013-10-18T16:45:04.523-04:00Then why isn't swimming a violation of Natural...Then why isn't swimming a violation of Natural Law? If God wanted me to submerge myself in the ocean and swim, he would have given me fins and gills.<br />Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395546579597858011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14168956.post-20594281337117542512013-10-18T16:07:21.776-04:002013-10-18T16:07:21.776-04:00I often wonder why people don't talk about the...I often wonder why people don't talk about the very real health risks of men who have sex with men anymore. <br /><br />The church really has tremendous wisdom in its teachings. Even if one is not an actual member of the Catholic Church, to follow the church's teachings is to live prudently.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11200221356189037181noreply@blogger.com